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Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:12 am
by jacount
Has anyone been able to run UMS on a different subnet from the host devices?

I have been unable to make this work so far. My server has a fixed IP set via DHCP reservation, and inter-VLAN routing is allowed. Do I need to set up port forwarding from the hosts to UMS and use DHCP reservations for all streaming devices?

My network is based on a Meraki MX64 firewall and the streamers are connected to a Meraki MR32 if that helps.

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:27 am
by Wolfgan
jacount wrote:Has anyone been able to run UMS on a different subnet from the host devices?

I have been unable to make this work so far. My server has a fixed IP set via DHCP reservation, and inter-VLAN routing is allowed. Do I need to set up port forwarding from the hosts to UMS and use DHCP reservations for all streaming devices?

My network is based on a Meraki MX64 firewall and the streamers are connected to a Meraki MR32 if that helps.
UPNP/DLNA protocol uses both TCP and UDP (usually 5001 TCP and 1900 UDP), make sure your segmentation rules allows both protocols to traverse.

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:30 am
by jacount
I have configured the routing to allow all traffic between these 2 subnets, so everything should be allowed, but I still can't see UMS from the streaming devices.

Would it be beneficial to forward those two ports from each streamer to my UMS server?

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:50 am
by Wolfgan
jacount wrote:I have configured the routing to allow all traffic between these 2 subnets, so everything should be allowed, but I still can't see UMS from the streaming devices.

Would it be beneficial to forward those two ports from each streamer to my UMS server?
I doubt it will work, as SSDP service (the basis of UPNP) uses multicast mode for announcement and presence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Se ... y_Protocol

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:12 am
by jacount
I checked with Meraki, and there is no way to forward multicast traffic across VLANs on my firewall.

Is there anything else I can do, or just put everything on the same VLAN?

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:15 am
by Wolfgan
jacount wrote:I checked with Meraki, and there is no way to forward multicast traffic across VLANs on my firewall.
Is there anything else I can do, or just put everything on the same VLAN?
I doubt there's anything to do if you need to keep that network topology. Why do you have separated segments? Security, routers location, differnt users, ???

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:43 am
by valib
There is no way to use the media server on the different subnet than renderer. The DLNA protocol used by the media server is based on the UPnP protocol which works only on the one subnet.

Re: Server on different subnet from player

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:54 pm
by jacount
Wolfgan wrote:
jacount wrote:I checked with Meraki, and there is no way to forward multicast traffic across VLANs on my firewall.
Is there anything else I can do, or just put everything on the same VLAN?
I doubt there's anything to do if you need to keep that network topology. Why do you have separated segments? Security, routers location, differnt users, ???
I'm using separate VLANs to limit the broadcast domains, and to keep my wired and wireless networks seperate. Looks like I will have to combine them however.