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Question about PS5

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Is there anyway to access Universal Media Server on the PS5
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Re: Question about PS5

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I don't have one myself but have not heard about a media player on the PS5. Maybe there is one available on the store? If it is it will probably be the same as the PS4 version.

The other way of accessing UMS would be though the web browser but this is hidden from the user on the PS5.
I have seen that there are ways of showing it, something like have someone send you a message with a link in it and when clicked it will give access to the web browser. You will have to do some googling on how to do it exactly.

I don't know if video playback will work in the PS5's web browser but might do.
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Re: Question about PS5

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Well I got the Media player app but I don’t see UMS in the app
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Re: Question about PS5

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Good to know there is one available. Is it the same as the PS4 one?

Have you managed to play anything locally from the USB in it?

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Re: Question about PS5

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I am trying to stream the content that is on my laptop so I don’t have a USB hooked up to the PS5 and I don’t think it is the same one that is on the PS4 and the media player doesn’t see UMS
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Re: Question about PS5

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I did a bit of research and the PS5 does not have a media player like the PS4. At most there is the gallery app that can play music and some videos from the USB but is not intuitive.
This is what I could find from 2 years ago and it seems it has not changed. As far as I can tell there is no way of playing over the network.

I think the only option would be to see if UMS will work in the hidden web browser. Apparently you need to get a friend to send you a message with the link you want to go to and the browser will open if you click it. This explains it better. YouTube seems to work so there is a chance UMS might but there is no guarantee.
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Re: Question about PS5

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[Note] I don't have any affiliation with RAD or anything, just wanted to share some knowledge since I think going through the Internal Browser is a little too "hacky" when you just want to watch a video from your server...

Actually, there is a way to view UMS videos on your Playstation 5.

I have RAD Player (previously known as LittlStar VR) that I was using to watch PSVR videos on my PS4. The app can be installed on a PS5 and it's free (mostly). I know there are 1-2 features that are blocked behind a paywall (Premium account), I don't remember if it's "sideloading" (playing stuff through USB) or DLNA or both, but I've been Premium for 5 years now... It's like 50$ a year.

Anyway, in LittlStar/RAD you can view your UMS videos (not sure if audio and pictures work on RAD, haven't tried). I tried setting up a Rad.conf file in my /renderers/ folder, but I can't get it to work. Maybe I don't have the right Search Terms in my config file, but here's what I have so far:

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# Profile for Rad Player's DLNA
# See DefaultRenderer.conf for descriptions of all the available options.
#
RendererName = Rad Player
RendererIcon = ps4.png

# ============================================================================
# This renderer has sent the following string/s:
#
# User-Agent: Unix/0.0.0.0 UPnp/1.1 Mono.Upnp/1.0
# ============================================================================
#

UserAgentSearch = Mono.Upnp/1.0

TranscodeVideo = MPEGTS-H264-AC3
SeekByTime = exclusive
TranscodedVideoFileSize = -1
RemoveTagsFromSRTSubtitles = false
H264Level41Limited = false
HalveBitrate = true

CustomFFmpegOptions = -r 60

# Supported video formats:
#Supported = f:avi      v:mp4|h264     a:aac-lc|ac3|mp3                           m:video/avi
#Supported = f:mkv      v:h264         a:aac-lc|ac3|mp3                           m:video/x-matroska
#Supported = f:mkv      v:h264         a:he-aac        n:2                        m:video/x-matroska
Supported = f:mp4      v:h264         a:aac-lc                 w:3840   h:2160   m:video/mp4
Supported = f:mp4      v:h264         a:he-aac        n:2      w:3840   h:2160   m:video/mp4
#Supported = f:mpegps   v:mpeg2        a:aac-lc|ac3|lpcm|mpa                      m:video/mpeg
#Supported = f:mpegts   v:mpeg2|h264   a:aac-lc|ac3|mpa                           m:video/mpeg
Supported = f:mov      v:h264         a:aac-lc                 w:3840   h:2160   m:video/mp4

# Supported audio formats:
#Supported = f:m4a         m:audio/x-m4a
#Supported = f:flac  n:2   m:audio/x-flac
#Supported = f:mp3         m:audio/mpeg

# Supported subtitles formats:
#SupportedExternalSubtitlesFormats = SUBRIP
#SupportedInternalSubtitlesFormats = SUBRIP
I just started from a vanilla Playstation4 conf file and removed the formats that aren't supported in their doc (here). If I manage to get a working Rad.conf file, I'll post it on this thread.
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Re: Question about PS5

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Sorry about double-posting, it won't let me edit my post (maybe I don't have enough cred on the forum).

This CONF file seems to work:

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#----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Profile for Rad Player on PS4/PS5.
# See DefaultRenderer.conf for descriptions of all the available options.
#
RendererName = [Rad Player] (LittlStar)
RendererIcon = 

# ============================================================================
# This renderer has sent the following string/s:
#
# User-Agent: Unix/0.0.0.0 Upnp/1.1 Mono.Upnp/1.0
# ============================================================================
#

UserAgentSearch = Unix[/]0\.0\.0\.0 Upnp[/]1\.1 Mono\.Upnp[/]1\.0

TranscodeVideo = HLS-MPEGTS-H264-AAC
SeekByTime = true

MaxVideoBitrateMbps = 18
HalveBitrate = true

H264Level41Limited = true
TranscodedVideoFileSize = -1

KeepAspectRatio = true


# Supported video formats:
Supported = f:mp4      v:h264         a:aac-lc        n:2       w:1280   h:720    m:video/mp4
Supported = f:mp4      v:h264         a:aac-lc        n:2       w:1920   h:1080   m:video/mp4
Supported = f:mov      v:h264         a:aac-lc        n:2       w:1280   h:720    m:video/quicktime
Supported = f:mov      v:h264         a:aac-lc        n:2       w:1920   h:1080   m:video/quicktime

# Supported audio formats:
# TBD

# Supported subtitles formats:
# TBD
For some odd reason (probably my Server lacks power) won't play this video:

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ffprobe version 4.1.9-0+deb10u1 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 8 (Debian 8.3.0-6)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --extra-version=0+deb10u1 --toolchain=hardened --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --incdir=/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu --arch=amd64 --enable-gpl --disable-stripping --enable-avresample --disable-filter=resample --enable-avisynth --enable-gnutls --enable-ladspa --enable-libaom --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libbs2b --enable-libcaca --enable-libcdio --enable-libcodec2 --enable-libflite --enable-libfontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgme --enable-libgsm --enable-libjack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libmysofa --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-librsvg --enable-librubberband --enable-libshine --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwavpack --enable-libwebp --enable-libx265 --enable-libxml2 --enable-libxvid --enable-libzmq --enable-libzvbi --enable-lv2 --enable-omx --enable-openal --enable-opengl --enable-sdl2 --enable-libdc1394 --enable-libdrm --enable-libiec61883 --enable-chromaprint --enable-frei0r --enable-libx264 --enable-shared
  libavutil      56. 22.100 / 56. 22.100
  libavcodec     58. 35.100 / 58. 35.100
  libavformat    58. 20.100 / 58. 20.100
  libavdevice    58.  5.100 / 58.  5.100
  libavfilter     7. 40.101 /  7. 40.101
  libavresample   4.  0.  0 /  4.  0.  0
  libswscale      5.  3.100 /  5.  3.100
  libswresample   3.  3.100 /  3.  3.100
  libpostproc    55.  3.100 / 55.  3.100
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'Video Name Here.mkv':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
    creation_time   : 2022-09-05T03:25:17.000000Z
  Duration: 00:22:19.35, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1957 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(tv, bt709/unknown/unknown, progressive), 1280x720, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      BPS             : 1829224
      DURATION        : 00:22:19.338000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES: 32112
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 306243785
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP: mkvmerge v69.0.0 ('Day And Age') 64-bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC: 2022-09-05 03:25:17
      _STATISTICS_TAGS: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (LC), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp (default)
    Metadata:
      BPS             : 125588
      DURATION        : 00:22:19.350000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES: 57681
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 21025910
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP: mkvmerge v69.0.0 ('Day And Age') 64-bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC: 2022-09-05 03:25:17
      _STATISTICS_TAGS: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
    Stream #0:2(eng): Subtitle: subrip
    Metadata:
      BPS             : 155
      DURATION        : 00:22:15.935000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES: 585
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 26017
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP: mkvmerge v69.0.0 ('Day And Age') 64-bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC: 2022-09-05 03:25:17
      _STATISTICS_TAGS: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
but will play this transcoded version of the same video:

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ffprobe version 4.1.9-0+deb10u1 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 8 (Debian 8.3.0-6)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --extra-version=0+deb10u1 --toolchain=hardened --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --incdir=/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu --arch=amd64 --enable-gpl --disable-stripping --enable-avresample --disable-filter=resample --enable-avisynth --enable-gnutls --enable-ladspa --enable-libaom --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libbs2b --enable-libcaca --enable-libcdio --enable-libcodec2 --enable-libflite --enable-libfontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgme --enable-libgsm --enable-libjack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libmysofa --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-librsvg --enable-librubberband --enable-libshine --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwavpack --enable-libwebp --enable-libx265 --enable-libxml2 --enable-libxvid --enable-libzmq --enable-libzvbi --enable-lv2 --enable-omx --enable-openal --enable-opengl --enable-sdl2 --enable-libdc1394 --enable-libdrm --enable-libiec61883 --enable-chromaprint --enable-frei0r --enable-libx264 --enable-shared
  libavutil      56. 22.100 / 56. 22.100
  libavcodec     58. 35.100 / 58. 35.100
  libavformat    58. 20.100 / 58. 20.100
  libavdevice    58.  5.100 / 58.  5.100
  libavfilter     7. 40.101 /  7. 40.101
  libavresample   4.  0.  0 /  4.  0.  0
  libswscale      5.  3.100 /  5.  3.100
  libswresample   3.  3.100 /  3.  3.100
  libpostproc    55.  3.100 / 55.  3.100
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Video Name Here.mp4':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : isom
    minor_version   : 512
    compatible_brands: isomiso2avc1mp41
    encoder         : Lavf58.20.100
  Duration: 00:22:19.35, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1209 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1280x720 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 1010 kb/s, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 24k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      handler_name    : VideoHandler
    Stream #0:1(und): Audio: ac3 (ac-3 / 0x332D6361), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      handler_name    : SoundHandler
    Side data:
      audio service type: main
Anyway, you can now watch DLNA videos on your PS5.
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Re: Question about PS5

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It's good that you can do that in that app but it's not something I would recommend unless you already use it and have a subscription.
If you only want to stream your own media then Plex may be better suited if it is not possible to use UMS.

I had a look at the Rad. app from the store on my PS4 and there is not much available till you create an account and sign in.
Even then you only get access to the UPnP Media Renderer if you subscribe to the premium service.
For our Premium users, you can view your own content using sideloading, UPnP or RSS feeds.
Not much point in sideloading as videos from the USB drive can already be played on the PS5 from what I have seen, but not very intuitive.

Their media player seems limited as it does not support embedded subtitles and will only play one specific format (H.264 and 2ch audio) which means nearly everything would need to be transcoded by UMS for it to be played. H265 is now one of the most common formats you will find these days.

Once I installed Rad. I had to go hunting to see where it went, eventually found it in the app library of the "TV & Video" app. I don't know if it is easier to find on the PS5 but it was not obvious that it would appear there for me.

While I was looking in the store for it I found the app for the PS4 media player under "TV & Video" > "Apps" > "Media player". I thought it was installed from the Home Screen and did not know it was in the store. Is this available on the PS5? Does it work?

I think the best way to access UMS would be from the web browser if it works. I just quickly tested it on the PS4 web browser and it does seem to work. Assuming the PS5 uses the same or smiler browser then I would expect it to work on there too. Are you able to test it out? You will need someone to send you a message with a link to it like

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UMS Player http://192.168.xxx.xxx:9002/
UMS settings http://192.168.xxx.xxx:9001/
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I just got a PS5 and tried to access UMS from the web browser by using another PSN account to send a message with the IP address of my computer, but the message gets deleted by PlayStation safety. Sending a link to google still works but there is no other way of entering a URL.

Just to test something that I might be able to click on.
192.168.1.74:9002

Edit: Ok that works and I can get to the web interface and everything looks good. However nothing will play and it says media not supported.
In the renderers list the PS5 browser shows up as Safari but I think someone said Safari won't play videos from the web player, I don't have anything Apple to test.
Obviously this address won't work for anyone else as its my computers local IP. There must be a website where you can type in a URL and be taken straight to it but don't know what to search for. Typing an IP into google just searches for results with that IP but does not go there.
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