Xbox 360 No Longer Connecting
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Xbox 360 No Longer Connecting
I had my PC and my 360 both plugged into the routher with ethernet cables and everything was working fine. I had to disconnect my PC (the server) from the ethernet cable and switch to wireless and everything was still working fine after restarting my PC. This worked for about a day and now all of a sudden the 360 will no longer connect to Universal Media Server. There are other devices in the house (PS3) that can still connect fine. The PS3 connects to the router wirelessly.
When I go to the system video player on the 360 the server will sometimes not appear and when it does appear and I try to connect it will "spin" for a while and then states it cannot connect perhaps due to a firewall issue. I have tried turning off the windows firewall, resetting the firewall settings to default and re-enabling it and I have also made sure that in the windows media player app it is set to "Allow" connections/streaming of media from the PC to the 360. The operating system that UMS is running on is Windows 7. Also possibly of note the router is a xfinity gateway (modem+router combined) device in case this information is of use.
Any help or light that can be shed on this baffling problem would be greatly appreciated!
When I go to the system video player on the 360 the server will sometimes not appear and when it does appear and I try to connect it will "spin" for a while and then states it cannot connect perhaps due to a firewall issue. I have tried turning off the windows firewall, resetting the firewall settings to default and re-enabling it and I have also made sure that in the windows media player app it is set to "Allow" connections/streaming of media from the PC to the 360. The operating system that UMS is running on is Windows 7. Also possibly of note the router is a xfinity gateway (modem+router combined) device in case this information is of use.
Any help or light that can be shed on this baffling problem would be greatly appreciated!
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It sounds like some kind of network issue, but if you want anyone to look at the UMS log for any clues you have to follow the text in red above.
Re: Xbox 360 No Longer Connecting
well on a whim I tried disconnecting the ethernet from the xbox 360 and connecting wirelessly and for some reason it is working now. Not sure why because they were definitely both connected to the same router/network. I am gonna chalk it up to the comcast crappy gateway device for now. I will mess with it more later because I do eventually want everything connected via ethernet. I would have attached logs but I was not able to generate useful information because I was not able to get the xbox to attempt to connect to UMS and get the FW rejection message when I had UMS in debug mode.
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I had similar issues myself when I finally made my Windows 8.1 PC wired instead of wireless. Everything is connected to a Netgear modem btw so it might rule out the crappy modem - although they could both have the same issues.
Personally I blame Microsoft's uncanny ability to make technology and software that not only doesn't want to talk properly to non-Microsoft tech but also its own.
Anyway my solution was to turn a 10 year old PC I had into an Ubuntu box and install UMS there (I needed a development area at home anyway). It works flawlessly and the navigation of UMS on the XBOX360 is noticably faster too.
Hence what I am saying is I don't have a solution - but if you work it out I'd be really curious to know what it was.
Edit: Thinking back on this both the XBOX360 and the PC were wireless prior to the issues - it was after wiring both that the issues began... not sure what you can make of that ?
Personally I blame Microsoft's uncanny ability to make technology and software that not only doesn't want to talk properly to non-Microsoft tech but also its own.
Anyway my solution was to turn a 10 year old PC I had into an Ubuntu box and install UMS there (I needed a development area at home anyway). It works flawlessly and the navigation of UMS on the XBOX360 is noticably faster too.
Hence what I am saying is I don't have a solution - but if you work it out I'd be really curious to know what it was.
Edit: Thinking back on this both the XBOX360 and the PC were wireless prior to the issues - it was after wiring both that the issues began... not sure what you can make of that ?
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Microsoft has major issues following standards, but I don't think that applies here. Microsoft's TCP/IP stack is relatively standard, and that's all that's relevant in this case.
I think a lot of the problem is that many people don't know enough about network when they configure routers, wifi access points etc. DLNA (which UMS uses to communicate with the renderers) does by design only work within the same IP subnet and relies on multicast. If the router/access point either creates separate IP subnets for the wired and wireless network, or doesn't properly relay the multicast packages between the wired and the wireless network, things won't work.
I think a lot of the problem is that many people don't know enough about network when they configure routers, wifi access points etc. DLNA (which UMS uses to communicate with the renderers) does by design only work within the same IP subnet and relies on multicast. If the router/access point either creates separate IP subnets for the wired and wireless network, or doesn't properly relay the multicast packages between the wired and the wireless network, things won't work.
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I kind of know the router can behave this way, but admittedly don't understand it.
My issue is that I replaced a wired PC with a wired Linux box and suddenly it all works the way it should.
From my perspective why does the Windows PC behave differently in this setup to a linux box plugged into the ethernet port next to the PC on the same modem ?
I did some further testing. I have media monkey on the same PC and the XBOX can see this flawlessly, but again UMS fails to consistently show up.
My issue is that I replaced a wired PC with a wired Linux box and suddenly it all works the way it should.
From my perspective why does the Windows PC behave differently in this setup to a linux box plugged into the ethernet port next to the PC on the same modem ?
I did some further testing. I have media monkey on the same PC and the XBOX can see this flawlessly, but again UMS fails to consistently show up.