MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.3)

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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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I wonder if this has anything to do with the notes in SonyBluray.conf, which have different sections for different players.
We aren't able to identify each device individually since Sony sends the same identifying information for every blu-ray player for the last few years :roll: so maybe we can try uncommenting the "Non-US Models Only" part.
I've done it for you, see attached:
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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SubJunk wrote:Is "Shingeki no Bahamut" the one that doesn't work?
Correct.
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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SubJunk wrote:I wonder if this has anything to do with the notes in SonyBluray.conf, which have different sections for different players.
We aren't able to identify each device individually since Sony sends the same identifying information for every blu-ray player for the last few years :roll: so maybe we can try uncommenting the "Non-US Models Only" part.
I've done it for you, see attached:
I'll try it, but I've always used the 2012 US MODELS (Sony BDP-Sx90) section as my model number fits that description and it has always worked great. Also why would only a very few mkv files show up as M2TS vs. MPEG in the player? Shouldn't all mkv files be recognized the same? Or does it have to do with whether it has embedded subs or not? Again though, in this case, they all have embedded subs.
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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That Shingeki no Bahamut file doesn't have a subtitle stream - the subtitles are hardcoded onto the video. So UMS is streaming the video directly to your player instead of doing anything with the subtitles. That means the problem is probably that UMS is giving your player some information about the file that it doesn't like.
In this case, line 65 of SonyBluray.conf is telling UMS to send the information "video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts" along with MKV files, so I recommend changing that part to either "video/x-matroska" or "video/divx", which are the other options mentioned for MKV files in SonyBluray.conf.

In UMS 5.0.0 we may have a way to detect individual Sony Blu-ray players. Can you please attach logs from this 5.0.0 preview version after connecting to your device and waiting for a minute? Then I can see about implementing the better detection so that people don't have to play with the renderer configs anymore :) http://www.spirton.com/uploads/UMS/UMS-085d40c.exe
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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Yep I see what you mean. I looked at the file with Media Info and it shows no ASS stream like the others. Interesting. Same sub group as most the others, wonder why it's not subtitled using the same method. Anyway if I go into the Transcode menu on the player for that file and use FFmpeg or MEncoder, it will play properly so yeah it's not recognizing something off about the stream vs what it expects to play.

I'll try out the version you attached and let you know what results I get with various files.
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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The version I attached won't give different results, I just wanted the log from it to identify your device better.

To fix the problem where MKV files without subtitles don't play (I'm guessing that's the current issue), try making the edits I suggested in my last post. I'll be interested to see which works.
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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Here's the logs from the 5.0.0 preview version. Looks like 3 different Sony renderers showed up on the front Status page.

I'll reply again with results on the other changes mentioned above.
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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SubJunk wrote:That Shingeki no Bahamut file doesn't have a subtitle stream - the subtitles are hardcoded onto the video. So UMS is streaming the video directly to your player instead of doing anything with the subtitles. That means the problem is probably that UMS is giving your player some information about the file that it doesn't like.
In this case, line 65 of SonyBluray.conf is telling UMS to send the information "video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts" along with MKV files, so I recommend changing that part to either "video/x-matroska" or "video/divx", which are the other options mentioned for MKV files in SonyBluray.conf.
Just to be clear. Do you mean this line?

Supported = f:mpegts v:h264|vc1 a:ac3|dts|dtshd|truehd|aac|lpcm|mpa|mp3 m:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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fwaits wrote:Here's the logs from the 5.0.0 preview version. Looks like 3 different Sony renderers showed up on the front Status page.

I'll reply again with results on the other changes mentioned above.
Thanks for the logs :) It shows me the information I wanted but unfortunately Sony isn't giving us any new identifying info, that's a shame. All they say is it's a Sony Blu-ray player.
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SubJunk wrote:That Shingeki no Bahamut file doesn't have a subtitle stream - the subtitles are hardcoded onto the video. So UMS is streaming the video directly to your player instead of doing anything with the subtitles. That means the problem is probably that UMS is giving your player some information about the file that it doesn't like.
In this case, line 65 of SonyBluray.conf is telling UMS to send the information "video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts" along with MKV files, so I recommend changing that part to either "video/x-matroska" or "video/divx", which are the other options mentioned for MKV files in SonyBluray.conf.
Just to be clear. Do you mean this line?

Supported = f:mpegts v:h264|vc1 a:ac3|dts|dtshd|truehd|aac|lpcm|mpa|mp3 m:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts
I mean the MKV line, so try changing the following line:

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Supported = f:mkv             v:mp4|divx|h264   a:ac3|dts|dtshd|truehd|aac|lpcm|mpa|mp3   m:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts
to:

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Supported = f:mkv            v:mp4|h264        a:ac3|dts|dtshd|truehd|aac|lpcm|mpa|mp3   m:video/x-matroska
or if that doesn't work, to:

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Supported = f:mkv            v:mp4|h264        a:ac3|dts|dtshd|truehd|aac|lpcm|mpa|mp3   m:video/divx
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Re: MKVs with embedded subs no longer work on BDP-S390 (4.1.

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Ok I figured out what was going on with the 4.2.0 build you gave me. I forgot to add divx to the "Force transcoding for the following extensions" line in Misc Settings, under Transcoding Settings. The renderer file is fine (I have the 2012 US ONLY section not REM'd out). With that extension added, the mkv files that don't have the ASS stream now show as MKV in the list and play normally, while the ASS embedded mkv files show MPEG and transcode properly as well. Hope that makes sense and helps you in some way. =)

Thanks for the help. I think I'll keep running the 4.2.0 build until the release one catches up.
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